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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world are convening for the peace-keeping...
and security of global youths,
hence the Non-Summit Meeting.
We shall begin the session.
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
- I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon. - I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
We are Junyoosung!
(Welcome representatives.)
We have Rigoberto from Philippines.
Nice to meet you. Please introduce yourself.
(Good evening.)
(I'm Rigoberto Banta Jr.)
(Nice to meet you today.)
Hello, I'm Rigo from Philippines.
Good evening. Nice to meet you.
I am in charge of the education business...
in an international organization in Korea.
Nice to meet you.
- Okay. - Nice to meet you.
(Nice to meet you Rigoberto.)
We talked about the South China Sea recently.
We now have a representative from Philippines.
There was an incident in the Olympics broadcast recently too, right?
Yes. At the Rio Olympics,
they were introducing the participating countries. When it was Philippines' turn,
CCTV's news presenters were silent.
- Really? - Yes, but the person didn't say anything.
- That's so childish. - I thought it was a mistake,
but it turned out...
it was because of the bad relationship between China and Philippines.
The news presenter intentionally kept silent.
- That's cute. - The person didn't say anything.
It's like, "This is the Korean team!"
However when the next country comes in,
"They're coming out."
- They didn't even say that, right? They didn't say anything. - Right.
Most Chinese people think...
it was awesome.
(Astonished)
Isn't it better...
to introduce them at the Olympics?
- Even if they sound sulky. - Right.
"It's the Philippines team."
(Laughing)
- "Here they are." - Right.
It's a different matter.
But, from the Chinese perspective...
It's a television broadcast,
so instead of smiling awkwardly and introducing them.
We should just say we don't like them.
(When we hate someone, we say so.)
Back in the London Olympics,
they didn't introduce the Japan representatives.
(Oh, my gosh.)
- Isn't that too harsh? - That's cute.
They have history.
- It's cute. - It's so...
I think the news presenter must've been like this.
(The Chinese news anchor must've been like this.)
- Here it is. - That is cute.
Rigoberto, did you know about this?
About how Chinese television didn't introduce Philippines.
I actually didn't know about this.
But personally,
I think the news presenters had no manners.
- It wasn't courteous. - I think the people should...
reflect on their actions.
We will cover each representative's issues...
and share diverse opinions.
We discuss all global issues by saying yes or no.
Agree or Disagree, what is So Important?
Here is an issue from Rigobeerto from Philippines.
You practiced a lot.
After the President of Philippines declared the war against drugs,
there are large numbers of drug dealers who were executed or killed.
Some people call it an infringement against human rights...
and others call it a reign of terror.
So, I want to know how you think.
I lay this issue to the Non Summit Meeting.
- Okay. - It's been...
In seven weeks after he became the President,
some 1,916 suspected drug dealers were killed.
- They were suspects, right? - Suspects.
Philippines President Duterte, who is carrying out a reign of terror...
(Currently, over 2,000 suspects have been killed.)
Duterte made a pledge...
to solve three problems...
within six months.
First is corruption.
Second is crime.
Third is drugs.
All the people see him doing what he said he would do,
so we find him reliable and trustworthy.
It's because he is doing what he promised.
But, because he is...
showing such determination,
the drug dealers all try turn themselves in. 600,000 people have done this.
No way.
- It's because he kills them. - They realized they would be killed,
so 600,000 of them turned themselves in.
I wonder what your opinions are about this.
"It's necessary for Philippines to do this because of its high crime rate."
Or, "Still, they shouldn't do it."
Those who think it's necessary, press the button.
In 1, 2, 3.
Guillaume?
Really?
- It's scary. - I'm looking forward to this.
(There are 3 who agree with Duterte's reign of terror and 7 disagree.)
It was hard for me to understand at first.
At first, I was completely against it.
When I talked to my Filipino friends,
they all like him.
They say he's cleaning up the country.
- Duterte is? - In English,
when you say "Come clean" or "I'm Clean",
it means you don't do drugs.
They used the term to describe this.
"It's cleaning the country."
- Really? - So, I agree.
Come to think of it, I suffered...
- from corruption in Philippines. - Corruption?
I was taking pesos with me at the airport,
and the police found out.
He said, "If you pay me 500 dollars",
- "I'll let you go." - That happens a lot.
Right.
I saw the recent news.
They're not just killing criminals.
Ordinary citizens suffered a lot, too.
Last week, a five-year-old girl was shot to death.
So, this kind of sufferings must be happening a lot.
How can the people of the country...
think it's okay? I find it hard to understand.
Right. Before this happened,
why didn't the police do something?
Before this happened,
what did the police do?
Why didn't people keep them...
from becoming criminals?
Now that they've become criminals, "I'll kill you with the reign of terror".
There must be things everyone is bad at.
- But Guillaume... - To be honest,
I can sympathize with Philippines.
Because Mexico used to...
have too many problems with drugs.
So, those extreme measures are necessary.
In a way, you can say that it's effective.
But, you know,
there is no country that has no crime.
There must be criminals in Canada and we have criminals in India, too.
Mexico has criminals, too.
But if you use the cleaning as an excuse to do this...
The people elected the government to protect themselves.
In my opinion, the protector shouldn't become a murderer.
There is something I want to ask.
If you agree with the reign of terror,
what if...
your brother or sister gets killed in Philippines?
If your family gets killed, what would you think?
In my opinion, when the police...
kills people for no reason other than the person...
being a suspected criminal, it won't become safe.
- The police... - They don't do it for no reason.
- They really... - The police...
- No, it's true. The President said it. - If they kill people for no reason...
The President said, "If a person is suspected of being a drug dealer,"
"it's okay to kill them." Without any trials.
- I think that's a problem. The police... - And also...
It's because the problem is too serious.
We need to check the number of people killed carefully first.
Not all the people who were killed...
- were killed by the police. - Right.
The local militia.
- The local militia? - Yes, vigilante.
"Since the government is making a move, we will also follow."
There are people like that.
So, there are many people who are killed,
but not all of them were killed by the government.
- That's the problem. - That's why I'm asking.
- It might be abused. - I heard a death squad has been created.
If the civilians can do it,
the problem is heading towards a different direction.
- Please consider this, too. - Okay.
There is a reason why the vigilantes execute people.
The people who are killed...
were likely to be involved with the drug dealers.
That's nonsense.
The reason why I think so is because...
There was a terrorist attack in a hotel in India, we caught a terrorist.
We wanted to kill him. It was a horrible incident.
But, we executed him after a two-year trial.
I agree. In the US,
people say drug problems are becoming serious.
But, in the US, the police...
have problems because of a different reason. It's because of racial discrimination.
They shot many people...
and people got killed without a trial.
But the role of the police...
is usually to arrest the criminal to be tried.
- That's right. - So, even with serious drug problems,
that's something we want to avoid.
Of course, it's harsh to kill criminals...
without trials in Philippines.
But if you were a general in the Philippines, you use to be untouchable.
But the President said...
that four generals were related to the drug trade.
Also I think before this, there had been no development for decades.
But, because the problem is so serious,
- They need strong actions. - I think they need a firm president like this.
- I see. - We keep saying trials are necessary...
but in the Philippines,
it's not possible to hold trials for that many people, right?
- Right. The system is so slow. - It's very slow, right?
A trial takes 10 to 20 years.
How can the prisons...
accommodate all of them?
Also, the government, police, and military personals...
are related to drug dealers, according to a research.
- So, it is serious. - Yes.
We have no choice but to take radical measures.
I wonder what alternatives there would be...
if we were not to rely on radical measures. I want to ask this to you.
This is the most famous case in the US.
It was serious in New York during the 80's.
People were stabbed to death every day. Crime rate was very high.
- But at that time... I think it was mayor Giuliani. - Right.
He improved the environment.
Like replacing broken windows.
Cleaning the subway, making it look pretty.
But, psychologically,
I heard people are less likely...
to commit crimes when they live in a good environment.
So, I think if the President of the Philippines,
does his best to make the environment better.
I think it will get better.
That's true. I agree with what you are saying.
The war on drugs is just one solution among many.
It's just that there is a big controversy in the media.
It is creating a lot of controversy at the moment.
Improving the environment and
the economy...
is something the government has been, and is continuing to do.
- They are doing it. - Yes, they are trying to improve both.
- Are you from the Philippines Bureau of Public Information? - Right.
- He sounds like a government official. - Is he Rodrigo Duterte?
(He's a secret agent from the Philippines.)
- He's Rigoberto Duterte. - I have a question.
- Yes, Aurelien? - Do the people in the Philippines...
feel like they are living in a...
democratic society?
Does it feel like a dictatorship or a democratic society?
According to a survey done in July,
- Almost 91 percent of the people support the President. - Wow, they do?
The other nine percent must all be criminals.
- Or friends of the criminals. - Aren't people shaking in fear?
- Yes, also. - It might be too much.
It's not a reign of terror.
We've been living in a culture of violence...
from a very long time ago.
A culture of violence is...
when you feel afraid while walking down the streets.
- That would be scarier. - People were so scared,
- The crimes would be worse. - they couldn't walk on the street.
There are other societal problems as well.
The president came out and said he would handle it.
- For the people in the Philippines, - It wasn't a safe environment.
what he had said could have felt very strong.
We also had a person like that in Germany in the past.
He also said he would solve everything. His name was Hitler.
- I see, Hitler. - However...
This government was not established through a coup d'etat.
- They were legally voted into power. - That's right.
This is probably a very unique case.
The people are reacting to the short-term benefits.
- You have to look at the big picture. - Short-term wise,
it's good because crime decreases.
But if you look at this long term,
it feels like you are sowing discord which will lead to more violence.
This might be fine for the current president,
but for future presidents,
this discontent might explode and cause more problems.
We shouldn't forget that this...
will only have a short-term effect. You need to know this.
We need to find a long-term solution for this.
What we need to remember is that...
the current situation in the Philippines is a nightmare.
We need to remind ourselves of that. When we only look at it from our perspective,
- we feel, it must be really bad to do something so drastic. - Right.
History will decide later on whether he was a dictator or a hero.
Was there a time in your country, when everyone was afraid like in the Philippines?
Didn't China also have a reign of terror? Aren't they sensitive about drugs?
As I understand it, in our country, we are only harsh...
on issues concerning corruption.
If you are found guilty of corruption, it's the death penalty, right?
If you have received 500,000 dollars in bribes, then it's the death penalty.
- Did Xi Jinping proclaim this? - After Xi Jinping came to power,
he kept fighting corruption.
This is scary but for ordinary people, it's not a problem.
After Xi Jinping announced this,
Macau's revenue dropped by half.
- The famous watch brand's sale also dropped by 80 percent. - Right.
However in China, the reactions are all positive.
- Xi Jinping's administration is eliminating corruption. - Yes, it's good.
In the case of Mexico,
in 1968...
there was a student protest...
that happened in Mexico City.
They were protesting when suddenly...
- a flare exploded. - Okay.
It might have been a signal for the soldiers,
and they started to shoot.
In the end a lot of students were killed.
So for Mexicans,
because we spilled a lot of blood,
- we call it the Tlatelolco massacre or the red day. - Red day.
When Italy was ruled by a Fascism,
it was also a reign of terror.
There is something called castor oil.
It's called castor oil. It was originally used as medicine.
When you have trouble in the bathroom, they give you this.
- It helps you in the bathroom. - It's like diarrhea medication.
They force-fed this to people.
If you are force-fed this, it will cause diarrhea.
It also makes you vomit.
There was a certain way to greet each other in Fascism as well.
- How do you do it? - When you shake hands or say hello,
- they would slap you. - Is that how you greet each other?
That was also adopted from the Romans.
It was how the Romans greeted each other.
Fascism also needs to draw their strengths from somewhere.
- It needed its own originality. - Yes.
They did it and said that Rome was the best.
Okay. We hope President Duterte doesn't turn out like that.
Sometimes power can create a sense of privileged entitlement.
Indians have a healthy fear...
of politicians.
Because of their sense of entitlement,
- like in the picture in front of you. - What kind of privilege is that?
- This is... - Is this some kind of punishment?
Firstly, the person in the white clothing is...
a governor of a province.
He's a governor.
Recently, there was a flood in a region.
He came to comfort the people.
- Right, he needed to visit. - He came to comfort the people,
but the water came up to his knees.
There's a flood. Why would anyone wear white to visit a flood?
He wore white clothing...
and white shoes as well.
- He's really unlikeable. - They can't say anything.
Who knows, if we could hear what they're saying,
"Let me down. I told you to let me down."
No way. Look at his expression.
He got criticized so much for this photo.
- In Mexico, we had a similar case to that. - Don't vote for him.
- What is that. - What's going on in this picture?
What is she doing?
She's Lydia Cummings, a reporter.
She was doing a report about the flood,
and the people from the neighborhood lifted her up.
A person took a photo of this...
and uploaded it to a social media site.
- Why is a reporter doing that? - She got criticized a lot.
"I was just moving to interview the next person..."
"but the villagers said that they would give me a lift."
"I just couldn't faint."
- She couldn't say no. - She couldn't say no.
- She should have fainted. - Yes, she should have.
She couldn’t say no.
When Justin Bieber visited the Great Wall of China,
the security guards lifted him up and carried him.
He was unlikeable but that made it worse.
It made him hated twice as much.
(Shaking his head)
On a Chinese website,
there was an article about a Chinese politician who visited a 100-year-old person.
The person in the photo is Wang Jun and he was the deputy mayor.
It looked like he was levitating in the photo.
- We can't see his legs. - So...
- What's wrong with that person? - We call him the Air Leader.
(Air Leader)
The person who edited the photo must have been fired.
They comments said to add a Photoshop test to the civil service examination.
A Photoshop test. They need to do that.
(We'll also show a recent controversial video clip from Japan)
(A senior civil servant is being given a piggyback ride.)
(He didn't want to get his shoes dirty. He felt entitled.)
The President of France has a personal...
hairdresser. He has his own personal hairdresser.
His monthly salary is 13,000 dollars.
In one month.
- I thought he didn't have a lot of hair. - Right.
You're right.
- He's bald. - Yes, he is.
- He's bald so... - It will be harder to cut his hair.
Even bald people have their own styles.
- They all have their own styles. - It must be hard.
He gets paid with the taxpayers’ money.
- How could you pay him with the taxes? - I can't believe it.
- In Pakistan, it's worse. - Really?
We have someone called Bilawal Bhutto.
He is a politician.
He's not the president or the prime minister.
When he goes down the street, they block the street off.
- They stop everyone from going. - Because he's a politician?
- They block the roads because he's a politician. - Is he a lord or something?
Recently, there was a car that had stopped on the road.
There was a patient in a critical condition. He was dying.
- He died because they couldn't move? - Yes, he died while they waited.
- They should have sent them through. - That was harsh.
- They didn't let him through? - They wouldn't let him through.
(A tragedy that happened due to entitlement)
- That's nothing. - The Philippines representative just said, "That's nothing."
- Shall we listen to him? - In the Philippines,
- I'm sure Koreans have heard of her as well, Imelda. - Imelda.
I was shocked when I saw the documentary.
She had two rooms just for her shoes.
- She had over 3,000 shoes. - 3,000?
She had 3,000.
- She could wear a new pair every day for 10 years. - Yes.
Yes, she had so many.
There was a word in the English dictionary, "Imeldific".
- Imeldific? - Yes, the word was Imeldific.
- It was defined as being like Imelda. - Imelda-like?
It was a word used to describe people like her.
"You Imelda-like person."
We have been paying off her debts until our previous president.
There was a time when the Philippines were more prosperous than Koreans.
- There was. - They lost it all because of the corruption.
I've been living in Korea for about eight years now.
Every time I get in a taxi, I'm always fascinated by...
how the taxi drivers will always sing a song in front of me.
- A song? - What song?
Have you heard of a song called "Anak"?
- Did you say Anaki? - "Anak".
- "Anak"? - "Anak".
- It was in the film, Gangnam... - "Gangnam Blues".
Yes, it was played in the movie.
- Why would taxi drivers sing that? - Because it's a song from the Philippines.
Is that so?
- During that period, Koreans were envious of the Philippines. - Right.
But now, it's the complete opposite.
That's right, people from the past still remember that.
They had a lot of resources and people.
I'm sure the people of the Philippines want to make their country better.
They have all the necessary ingredients to make their country great.
- Yes. - The Philippines.
Shall we now talk about the privileges given to politicians?
For Korean National Assembly members they have an exception privilege.
They exempted from arrests as well.
They get money to maintain their cars, cell phones...
health care, and 200 or so other benefits.
Let's talk about the privileges received by politicians.
Politicians should get benefits.
If you agree please put up your hands. In 1, 2, 3.
- It's three people. - If they do their jobs well, I wouldn't mind.
Because politicians receive less money than those who work in the private sector,
I believe that need to receive benefits.
The job of a politician is very important.
- The most extraordinary people in the nation should be doing it. - Right.
If you work for a good company you make a lot of money and are respected,
but with politics you are always being criticized, so who'd want to do that?
- They should be given benefits. - In the US, there's only Hilary and Trump.
- But, Guillaume... - There can be better candidates,
- but they don't want to do it. - It would be nice if they do good things,
but is being carried around by the police a good thing?
- It's not. A politician... - That's...
is a person who represents ordinary people.
A politician needs to know...
about what kind of difficulties ordinary people face.
If they receive too much benefit...
and if their lives are so well-off,
they can't understand the difficulties ordinary people face.
- That's idealism. - The reason why I...
- I agree. - That's idealism.
For example, a president doesn't need to drive.
- Right. - The President.
Politicians do important things,
so they need a good environment...
- for them to focus on their work. - It'd be nice if they focus on their work.
Benefits are there help them work.
You know, New Delhi is the capital, right?
We get blackouts in the summer in the capital.
There are no blackouts in the neighborhood where politicians live.
The water doesn't get cut off, there are no traffic jams.
They even get laundry benefits.
- What? - Laundry?
They live a completely different life compared to ordinary people.
If these things happen occasionally, we'd ignore it.
But it keeps happening, so hearing things about politicians...
makes our blood boil.
Pakistani government...
politicians don't get paid a lot.
- They receive less than what I get. - Right.
I was surprised to find out.
- If you become a politician in Pakistan, - Don't go. Stay here.
you become rich.
I was surprised yesterday.
I wondered how they become rich when the government pays them so little.
- This is the important point. - I gave it a thought.
So, if you give them too little benefits, they can become corrupt.
Because they don't receive proper benefits,
they keep receiving things here and there.
- So... - I see.
They receive things with both hands.
I thought if they're given proper salaries, they won't accept bribes.
If you give them lots of money, they...
People want to become politicians because they can earn lots of money.
I think this isn't right.
There is a saying in the Philippines. You know Pacquiao, right?
- Pacquiao. - Boxing.
He became a senator recently.
He became a senator,
but he said he will start boxing again.
He said he can't support his living with the salary he gets.
So I think it's necessary to provide them...
with proper welfare.
I think they should be provided with those things.
What is Pacquiao like? Is he a true national hero?
Yes, people like him. When he has a match,
everything stops.
I see.
The crime rate drops to zero percent.
- Seriously? - The crime rate.
Wouldn't it be better to make use of Pacquiao instead of fear?
- If the crime rate becomes zero... - People say that's a possibility.
I think it doesn't matter how much salary they're paid.
The problem rises...
when the politicians think that it's natural for them...
to receive the benefits.
- Right. - At that moment,
the problems start.
- The amount of salary is not important. - They say,
"We need to be paid a decent salary to prevent corruption."
In fact, there is no end to greed.
- Of course. - In Italy, they get large salaries,
plenty of benefits, and corruption is still severe.
- They got everything. - Seriously.
It's true.
- They're good at everything. - They mix it up.
It's a good thing to provide lots of benefits and salary to politicians.
But I think the law should be very strict.
They should be sent to jail for a minor offense.
Or they lose all the benefits.
The problem in Italy is...
that nothing happens if they get caught.
That's the problem.
How much benefits do they receive in Italy?
It's endless. We need a special episode for this.
A special episode on benefits.
- For Italy. - Their monthly salary is only about 6,000 to 7,000 dollars.
If you add all the benefits, they receive over 20,000 dollars a month.
- Seriously? - It's because... They have to work in Rome,
so they receive money for living expenses in Rome.
That's about 4,000 to 5,000 dollars.
Then they receive about 4,000 dollars for normal living expenses.
And since they have to go to the countryside,
all transportation is free for them.
First class seats. But,
they receive about 1,500 dollars a month,
to go to the airport from their home.
- Why? - For taxi...
They take taxi and it's tiring.
Also, they have assistants.
They receive a few thousand dollars to pay the assistants.
The problem is they hire college students without paying them...
and still receive the government subsidies.
So, they don't pay the assistants.
- Anyway... - The should be paying them.
I actually think it's okay to give them lots of benefits and salary.
But, when you look at the attendance rate,
some of them only appear once or twice a year.
- They only go to Parliament once or twice a year. - Then they sleep.
Right. They don't do anything.
There was a pianist scandal.
They're supposed to press a button to vote.
But the politicians don't go to Parliament.
Then the people sitting next to the seat...
press their button...
- and the buttons next to them. - That's Mozart.
- It's Mozart. - We...
- We can do it. - He's doing it again.
(Playing solo)
(Playing together)
(Even a tricky performance)
That's the opposite from Canada.
In Canada, politicians get economy seats for flights under two hours long.
When they go on a business trip by their car, up to 100km,
they receive...
exactly 0.493 dollars per kilometer.
- They keep the decimals. - 0.493?
- And if they sleep at a friend's house... - That's realistic.
instead of a hotel, they'd be saving tax money.
So they get paid 50 dollars. We have these things.
- It's 200 dollars for hotels. - It's 200 dollars maximum.
But if you get a hotel room for 200 dollars in Toronto,
it won't be a luxurious hotel.
But the salary of Japanese politicians is very high.
Yes. In Japan, they receive about 400,000 dollars a year.
- Did you say 400,000 dollars? - Yes.
The countries with largest public debts are Japan and Italy.
To be honest, the reason why I'm against it is...
if they get paid and do good work, it'd be nice.
But now... What do they do?
(Oogi had lots of things he wanted to say.)
- He sounds like a protestor. - "What do they do?"
It sounded like a real summit meeting.
It's so upsetting.
- With the tax... - It's upsetting.
Yes. They use tax money...
to go to hot springs and things.
- But young Japanese people don't vote often. - He was very cute.
Right, we don't vote often.
- Isn't it because they're cynical? - Right.
So, that's a problem as well.
Now, during elections,
they started to appeal to the young people.
There are some politicians who are criticized for saying inappropriate things.
In Korea, a high-ranking official said "The people are dogs and pigs."
It raised controversy.
- It was amazing. - It was serious.
So, we prepared this.
"The time for inappropriate sayings. What is harsher?"
("The time for inappropriate sayings. What is harsher?")
Should we start bragging?
It's going to be about Trump.
He said all Mexicans...
are rapists.
- He said that. - What did he say in English?
- Criminals. - "They're rapists."
- "Rapists." - Out of the blue?
When Mexico sends its people,
they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists.
- Those... I was so surprised. - What is that?
Even for ordinary people...
People would feel like they'd be punished for saying that. It's nonsense.
But now that the election day is coming up,
Trump is now trying to...
- appear nice to the Mexican people. - All of the sudden?
- So the Mexican holiday... You know, Cinco de Mayo. - Right.
So, on Cinco de Mayo...
In Trump Tower,
he said the best Mexican dish is a taco bowl.
- He was eating it. - We don't have such a thing.
Exactly. It's like...
A Korean person trying to appear nice to Chinese people...
and eating jajangmyeon. Saying, "I love China".
- Shabu-shabu. - Jajangmyeon is a Korean dish.
- Exactly! Taco bowl is an American dish, too. - So that's what it's like.
What is that picture?
- Also... - What's that?
What's really funny is that, amongst the documents,
you can see the picture of his second wife.
But he's living with his third wife now.
Why did he show the picture of his second wife?
Why was he watching it?
- He made a mistake while putting on a show. - Yes.
- Maybe he misses her. - Right.
I heard this man is Asia's Trump.
There is something people don't like about...
Duterte.
There are some complaints about the inappropriate things he says.
- It's a harsh expression. - It's that expression.
(He said this to Obama who criticized his reign of terror.)
(He called President Obama the son of a dog.)
- Like that. - I'm worried.
Aren't people who react like that when they're opposed...
- a bit dangerous? - It's concerning.
There is a region called Balochistan in Pakistan.
The governor is someone called Raisani.
There was a terrorist attack that killed about 40 people.
He said, "We have too many people. The death of 40 people is not a problem."
- He said that. - Oh my gosh.
- Not only that... - I don't think even Trump would say that.
- Let's pick the worst person today. - Even Trump...
Even Trump would've said "Oops" after saying that.
I was shocked, but this wasn't the end.
The families of the victims were crying.
He said, "I'll send tissues to the families."
- He said that. - What is he saying?
- "I'll just send them tissues." - I think we should pick the worst person today.
- He is a prominent candidate. - Yes, he is.
It was so serious that...
the victims...
brought their dead out to the street...
instead of burying them in graves.
They said they won't leave the streets until he is fired.
So, the government fired him.
- He was fired? - That's a good thing.
"We have too many people. The death of 40 people is not a problem."
- Yes, there is no problem. - "All Hispanics are criminals or rapists."
- Who do you think will win? - Trump seems to be a little intimidated.
Canada, do you have a challenger?
I think this is becoming controversial in Canada...
because of insignificant issues.
Someone made this remark,
"You are a waste of nature; I'll blow your brains out."
- "Blow your brains out"? - Yes.
- "You are a waste of nature"? - I get it.
- So, she's asking why he was born? - I see, it's why were you born.
It's hurtful words. He said this through an exchange on Twitter, right?
Yes. The person was caught saying this.
Even though it was in the past, she could no longer be a politician.
They forced her to retire.
Have you heard of a French politician called Jean-Marie Le Pen?
- Le Pen. - He was on the extreme right.
- He was the leader of the National Front party. - That's right.
He said the Nazi prison camps where the Jews were massacred...
was only a trivial matter.
- Gosh. - He said that?
(The Nazi's murder of Jews in the gas chambers is a trivial matter.)
(Murmuring)
What he said about the Nazis was...
It seems like all the politicians that were mentioned said terrible things.
We have Silvio Berlusconi.
- He's being mentioned again? - We'll save Berlusconi for later.
We want to save that for the end.
The superstar has to be the last to perform.
There might be someone who might challenge him.
Shall we listen to Oogi?
Japan is an aging society, right?
Taro Aso is the Deputy Prime Minister and...
- Minister of Finance. - What did he say?
He asked a 90-year-old person how long he intends to live.
He actually said that.
(I saw a 90-year-old man worrying about his future.)
(How much longer do you intend to keep living?)
He publicly said what he was privately thinking.
He was just thinking it, but he let it slip, "How..."
- "How much longer do you intend to keep living?" - That's scary.
Okay, let's move on to Alberto.
- Alberto. - Shall we drink water before we begin?
- He has a sense of humor. - Yes?
if you type in "Silvio Berlusconi being blunt" on the internet,
you can find a top 10 list. It exists.
There is a top 10, but I'll just tell you the least funny one today...
- and you can find the other ones later. - They can search for it.
In 2008, there was a lot of meetings...
he had to meet Prime Minister Gordon Brown and...
it was a very busy year for him.
During an interview, he said this...
"My schedule is too tight."
"Last night, in the room next to ours..."
"there were 11 girls in the room."
I could only see eight of them. It was so tough.
(Jaw-dropping)
- That was a light one. - He wanted to win.
I have a question. Did he say that in front of...
the cameras with a microphone on?
It was just a normal press conference.
- At a press conference? - Are you sure it wasn't like "Candid Camera"?
This... I'm not joking.
There was an enormous earthquake in 2009,
several hundred people had died.
At least 10,000 people had lost their homes.
In an interview he said,
"Think of this as a...
weekend camping experience."
You can't say that. You really can't.
(The emergency camp has everything they need.)
(Think of it as a weekend camping)
- Didn't he also say something to Angela Merkel? - We can't beat this.
We had such a big issue with Germany after this.
Berlusconi said that Angela Merkel's bottom was too big.
He said she was a woman...
that you could not do it with.
That's too much.
At that time...
They were misinformed. It wasn't true.
Everyone believed it though. Since the reporters believed it,
they printed it. They also printed it in Germany, too.
The Italian ambassador in Germany said...
that he was going to leave.
- Leave? - He was going to leave the country.
It's such an absurd story, even if it isn't true.
The real story should have been, "It's not true."
"The stories are true, but I never said this."
(You reap what you sow)
(After that incident he gave an interview with a British broadcasting network.)
(Did you really say that to Angela Merkel?)
(No, it's not true.)
It would be nice if you could...
use your bluntness and wit...
- to help the citizens in your country, right? - Yes.
We'll find out what is important next week on the segment, what is So Important?
Yes.
Let's meet our Korean representative for today.
He is handsome and is a great actor.
He also has a beautiful wife and daughter.
He is a man who adds to good things.
Well, 2 plus 3 equals Oh Ji-ho.
It's Oh Ji-ho.
(The 116th Korean representative is Oh Ji-ho.)
(He enters the room in a different way.)
- He is handsome. - Welcome.
(Oh Ji-ho, Korean, actor and entertainer)
He is very handsome.
- Please take a seat. - Yes, please do.
Please introduce yourself.
- It's nice to meet you. - It's nice to meet you.
It's a privilege for me to be here. I'm the Actor Oh Ji-ho.
(Welcome)
He is currently on the show "Superman is Back".
- He became a father. - Yes.
- Alberto also just recently became a father. - Is that right?
- Yes. - How long have you been a father?
I've been a father for about 20 days.
Do you have any advice to give him?
I've been a father for about nine months.
Just do your best.
You'll get into fights over small things, so be careful.
- Okay. - We shall begin the 116th non summit meeting.
Let's listen to his item.
"I hated losing so much as a child."
"I couldn't sleep when I lost at something."
"That's why I brought this item with me."
"I'm so competitive that I feel like I have to win every competition."
"Am I abnormal?""
Most guys do have a competitive nature.
When do you feel that you are overly competitive?
There are times when you lose to someone you that shouldn't lose to.
I feel like I shouldn't lose to him.
But I lost. That's when I...
feel like I'm going to die.
- Really? - Do you play games?
I use to play a lot in the arcade.
- What arcade game did you play? - "Street Fighter".
(He played fighting video games.)
That game brings back a lot of memories.
I did play "Tekken" as well.
Do you bang the table when you lose in an arcade game?
I'll be playing... If I was playing "Tekken",
I wouldn't play beside him.
- I'd be playing him from the opposite side. - The opposite side.
(Check who you are playing against)
Hold on.
You wouldn't look him in the eye.
If I saw him and he turns out to be an elementary student,
- Gosh. - You'd stand up to take out all your coins.
- Elementary students are good. - I'd take out this many coins.
- This way, no one else could play. - You'd mark it as your seat.
Yes, I would.
- Just thinking about it is making me sweat. - He really...
- doesn't like to lose. - He's competitive.
I see. That's good.
"I'm so competitive that I feel like I have to win every competition"
"Am I abnormal?" Let's begin the debate.
(Is normal or abnormal?)
- He's so competitive that... - If you think he's abnormal, press the button.
- In 1, 2, 3. - Press the button.
(There are 6 people who agree and 6 who disagree.)
Aurelien thinks he is abnormal.
- Wang Xinlin, Zahid, Guillaume, Lucky... - This is normal.
and Christian believe he is normal.
Everyone wants to win deep down, right?
I didn't think there would be anybody who didn't want to win. But, there are a lot.
You have to be careful of people like them. No, really.
Lucky, it's not about that.
The important part is he wants to win too much.
- I am also a very competitive person. - Competitive nature.
I hate losing so much that my friends don't want to play games or sports with me.
- That's normal. Turn it off. - No, I mean...
It can also cause situations like this.
I want to win so badly,
that I don't even try to do something that I feel like I won't win.
For example, Guillaume and I are both terrible singers.
However, my competitive nature might push me to go over it.
I don't want to be the worst, so I...
don't go to karaoke rooms with my friends.
I see, you don't want to lose.
- It's not something he is good at. - I don't think so.
I agree with that because I'm also like that.
If possible, I always want to be first.
The most important thing for me is my pride.
I won't allow anyone to hurt my pride.
(No one can hurt my pride.)
- So? - He really is competitive.
If I am competing with someone, I want to be first.
If I can't win, I don't even try.
That's what I'm saying.
In my opinion...
- since he said he has to win to feel satisfied, - Right.
I feel like he is abnormal.
Because when you play a game, the result doesn't matter.
- What matters is whether you had fun. - Did you say it's not important?
- Why isn't that important? - The result is important.
- How can that not be important. - He's saying...
- the process is important not the result... - If the process is fun,
- than you should feel satisfied. - I'd feel frustrated and angry.
- I was a professional gamer. - He knows about this.
- It's okay to lose. - Whenever I lost, I felt really bad.
I became a professional gamer because I hated losing.
If I didn't have that,
- Guillaume. - I'd just be a casual gamer.
- You lost a lot of games. - Didn't you lose more as a professional gamer?
So, after you lost...
How did it feel when you took the headphones off?
Whether it was a practice match or a competitive match, you still feel bad.
It's a terrible feeling and you don't want to talk to anyone.
Then Guillaume, is winning more important...
than the fight itself in the match?
Wouldn't they both be important?
- They are both important. - Then, they should have fun...
If you try to have fun in a fight, it's not fun.
- Right. - You should fight with everything you have.
Like what we said before,
we need to try our best to win.
However, even if you lose, since it was a fun match...
- you should feel satisfied. - We have to be satisfied with a good match?
- "It was a great match." - "It was a good match."
Like how the fighter hug after beating each other up in the UFC?
- They are competitive. - It's not that they want to lose.
It's like that famous English saying, "Pick your battles".
You have to know when to fight and when you should accept it.
If you know this, then you have attained great wisdom. - Hold on, Mark.
The greatest tennis players cannot pick their battles.
- Every day is a battle. - It's a battle every day, and they have to win.
- If you want to be the best, you have to be competitive. - It's true.
Yes, sports are like that, however life is very long, right?
If you fight every battle, you'll be exhausted.
- You'll be exhausted. - Doesn't this apply to a trading company?
Don't you have to hate losing if you want to be the best in a trading company?
This is about strategy.
Instead of fighting every battle,
you have to first find out which battles you can win.
But you do become competitive once you chose the battles.
There are battles you don't have to fight.
For those battles...
After you fight, regardless of whether you win or lose,
it actually just makes you exhausted.
Because it's an unnecessary battle.
Winning isn't everything.
Sometimes, you win by losing.
Like when couples fight, winning...
actually makes the relationship worse.
In the end, we're losing.
- So, we... - It's winning for nothing.
- He has a point. - Right?
- It's being intelligent. - That's the worst kind of winning.
So, we...
Instead of fighting, by losing,
we can become closer in the long run.
What about when you argue with your wife?
Do you become competitive?
No, I have to lose all the fights.
Most husbands say that.
- But it's not easy. - It's not.
So, I just...
How do you lose?
I just leave.
- You're just avoiding the fight. You're not losing. - Isn't that worse?
I first have to stop talking.
If I keep going,
- I might become more upset. - But...
All you have to say is, "You're right".
But I can't do that.
- I can't even do that. - I'm really good at that.
- Really? - I hate fighting.
Okay, okay. Gosh, I'm so stupid.
- I should die. - I think he'll really do that.
It's my mouth's fault.
- This is difficult. - Yes, it is.
People sometimes fight.
What are the reasons for people fighting in your countries?
According to a survey,
people fight most often while driving.
- Do they jump out of the car? - Last year,
there were 50 million fights.
- For what? Cutting in? - We have 60 million people.
- Everyone is fighting except the kids. - There were 50 million fights.
Everyone is fighting except the kids.
So, it's the same.
- Sometimes people compete while driving. - Racing?
Yes, racing.
Or people swear.
Or we use lots of gestures.
When you feel like the other driver made a gesture,
you'd go over and look like this.
Then the other driver would be like, "What are you looking at?"
- Those things. People swear a lot, too. - They get into fights easily.
And parking.
They fight because of parking?
- We have people who park however they want. - Lucky.
- Those things... - You don't talk about those things.
When we went to Guillaume's birthday party,
Alberto wanted to park.
But Lucky just drove in and...
Lucky drives very violently.
- He is really... - That's how people drive in India.
- Why? - He was trying to park,
but Lucky came from the far side and just slipped in.
He was swearing so much without realizing it's Lucky.
It's because...
Most fights occur during driving in India.
People try not to fight with people who own...
better or bigger cars.
But it seemed like I can do that.
- It looked like I could do it. - Are you looking down on him?
I'm not joking.
If you at the backside of cars in India,
people post phrases they like on the back of the car.
The cars you shouldn't pick a fight with...
are cars with phrases like, "My dad's present".
You should never pick fights with those.
It means the person is from a rich family.
You can pick a fight with...
"I love my dog." That's a weak person. A person who loves dogs is a weak person.
- With a dog... - "I love my dog?"
- I heard there are no car insurances in Pakistan. - Right.
There aren't many car insurances.
If there is even a minor collision,
- people start fighting. - Really.
It really happens often. Also, when there is a traffic jam...
and you cut into a line,
the other driver would turn the lever and lower the window.
Then the person will keep swearing.
The swearing also starts the fight.
There are so many fights because of cars in Pakistan.
I think it's peaceful in Japan...
even when people park.
People wait for each other.
- Really? - Asking the other person to park first.
- People don't even honk the horns, right? - Right.
People almost never do this, right?
- In Europe. - I was amazed here.
- Because people do this a lot. - The horn?
In Europe, it's for an emergency or picking a fight.
- In India... - If you don't honk the horn, you fight.
It's because... "I couldn't see you behind me!"
In India, people honk all the time.
- You know the lights... - High beam?
In Switzerland, that is like swearing.
It's not like that for us.
It's for letting people know that there are police nearby.
- That's what it is. - Right, it's the same for us.
- "Drive slowly." - "There is police nearby."
- There are people like that. - You need to watch for that in Canada.
In US, a fight occurs in the court.
You say, "See you in the court".
It's used too often. I think it's a sickness of sort.
- Lawsuits. - There is a term for that.
US is considered to be a litigious country.
Litigious comes from litigation.
It means people file lawsuits a lot.
For example, when someone takes damage,
he or she would want to blame someone.
So, "I fell because the stairs in front of this person's house was slippery".
"So, let's go to court."
- That's how people solve many problems. - Why do they...
There were many unbelievable cases.
The most famous case was about an old woman.
- She went to the drive-through at McDonald's. - I know this.
She asked for a very hot coffee.
She got the coffee and she put the cup between her legs...
and drove away.
She got hurt because of that.
Because it was hot. She filed a lawsuit...
against McDonald's for that.
Did she sue because there was no warning saying that it's hot?
Right, because there was no warning. Or she just...
- said that it's McDonald's fault. - They have ice.
I think coffee shops...
started placing those warnings since then.
"Caution, it's hot." That's why they started it.
So, in a coffee shop in Canada,
they printed this warning.
"If this was another country, we'd have to tell you that this coffee may be hot."
"Good thing this is Canada!"
"We don't need warnings."
We always think legally,
so I felt some cultural differences in Korea.
For example, there are many barbecue restaurants where you cook your own meat here.
You can't have those restaurants in U.S.
If people get injured, everyone would sue the restaurant.
Here, if I get hurt like that,
people would say, "Gosh, you're foolish."
It's my fault.
In that sense, Korean culture...
makes more sense.
Doesn't it cost a lot to go through lawsuits?
- Of course it does. - It costs a bit.
So, the lawyers love the culture.
Didn't I say this?
When we shoot programs in Myeong-dong, people would be walking around.
I heard you get phone calls in the US.
- About portrait rights? - "I was on that program that airs at 6pm."
"Do you know that I was in the background..."
"during the interview?"
- "You need my agreement." - "Should I sue you?"
- Why are people so inflexible? Are principles that important? - We...
Americans like things to be very clear.
So we always care about rules...
or terms on contracts and things.
So, in the US, you shouldn't touch...
someone's dog without asking first.
If you get bitten,
the owner has to pay you a lot of money.
So they get angry if you don't ask.
In Canada, my friend got bitten, too.
Parts of his nose came off.
He received 25,000 dollars.
In a way,
I'm not sure if it's the dog owner's fault,
but I think he would've received 10 times that in U.S.
This is a different topic,
but when you rescue a person drowning,
- I heard you have to ask first. - Right.
You have to ask, "Can I rescue you?" If the person doesn't respond,
you take the silence as an agreement.
- You then rescue the person. - In the US?
- No, in Korea. - In Korea, too?
Right, wrong aid can make things worse.
It's the first aid method. You ask first.
Ji-ho, what do you think...
are the reasons Koreans fight?
- "How old are you?" - Right.
It's something only Koreans ask a lot.
- It's Completely Korean. - You don't do that in your countries, right?
- No. - "How old are you?"
"Why you little..." That's how it starts.
"You're older. Good for you."
(It's a volatile topic.)
There's no end to this.
Were you born in the earlier months?
"Act your age!"
There are certain things that rile people up.
Age. I think it's age.
- You can't relate to this, right? The age thing. - I...
But you get used to it.
When I first came to Korea, I tried to accept the culture by...
addressing older people appropriately.
But the funny thing is,
the people younger than me just call me Nik.
I follow the custom and I want to...
- receive the treatment in return. - "That's inappropriate."
You're right.
Koreans ask for your age when they meet someone for the first time.
- Right. - "Excuse me, but how old are you?"
It's to decide which titles to use.
I think "Oppa" must be the first term you experienced.
- I hate that. - I think...
- You hate it? - Oogi says he hates it.
- I hate that term. - Why?
- I've never seen a man who hates that word. - I don't like it either.
- It's... -Why do you hate the word?
I really...
- We... - Let me ask.
You sounded like a girl. "Why do you..."
- "Why do you hate me?" - As if he was talking about his brother.
It's so hard to translate.
When PSY's "Gangnam Style" became a hit in the US...
(Oppa is Gangnam style)
When you translate the lyrics,
"Big brother is Gangnam..."
- Big brother is Gangnam style. - You can't explain it.
It's like poppy.
Poppy? No, that's not it.
- Poppy? - Poppy.
- "Oppa" just means "I" in that. - Exactly.
Who likes the word?
- I keep... - Alberto, how do you know it?
Isn't it obvious?
It is obvious.
- What does this gesture mean, Mark? - It's Spanish.
I don't like it.
Nor do I want to hear it.
Calling me oppa is okay.
But it's a matter of style.
- If someone tries to sound too cute... - That's tricky.
- If it's like "Oh, oppa", I wouldn't like it. - Oppa.
These people are so picky.
- How do Japanese fans of Korean celebrities call their stars? - Don't they say...
- oppa? - What do they call them?
Let say SHINee is in Japan.
- What about Sung Si-kyung? - We'd call him Sung Si-kyung sang.
When you go to Japan, how do they call you?
- Oh Ji-ho sang. - I see.
My fans would call me...
Oh-sama sometimes.
- Oh-sama. - Osama Bin Laden?
- Oh-sama. - Osama.
It's Osama.
- It's kind of addictive. - It's his new nickname.
- Oh-sama. - It's a bit dangerous sama.
(He is a dangerous sama.)
As we have Ji-ho here,
I'd like to come up with something fun with the Non Summit members.
Let's assume you'd...
compete with other members.
In which area do you think you're the best in?
It's time to brag about yourself. Who's number one?
(Who's number one?)
The sync was not perfect.
- Why did you look at me first? - Is it like this?
Let's hear from Guillaume first.
Tell us what you're best at.
I think I can beat everyone here in games.
Because you used to be professional gamer, right?
I think I'd be number one in swimming as well.
Because Mark...
said he swam a lot when he was young.
But I beat him in swimming.
- I admit it. - As to swimming,
I have very good techniques.
I've been swimming ever since I was little.
- I was a captain of a swimming team. - Really?
But he's a monster.
It's because he eats a lot of meat.
I did my best with all my skills and techniques.
But Guillaume simply fought against the water.
- He was like monster. - He even drank the water while swimming.
The water level went down.
(The water level in swimming pool lowered.)
Clearly the water was scared of him. It avoided him.
- I'm not good at swimming, but I'm quite fast. - He's a monster swimmer.
However, I...
want to compete with him one day.
When I was young, my nickname was silver hairtail.
- I was called silver hairtail. - Silver hairtail?
Silver hairtail.
- A hairtail from China? - Yes.
It sounds strange that your nickname was silver hairtail when you were young.
- What did you wear when you were a boy? - Silver hairtail?
- Is it because you looked like it? - Are you from Mokpo?
What did you wear?
- I'm so confident in swimming. - He wants to compete with Guillaume.
I was so confident about myself too, but you can't beat him.
Is his name "Wangsimni"?
- Wangsimni? - It's not Wangsimni.
His name is Wang Xinlin.
If it suits you, you can call him silver hairtail.
I'm pretty confident in general knowledge.
- Are you? - I think I can win if we do a quiz show.
Especially, I know a lot about capitals of different countries.
- There are so many countries in Europe. - Why don't we do it right now?
What about Latin American countries instead...
- of Europe? - Australia sounds good, too.
- That's good. - Alex.
- Let's do it. - What's the capital of Uganda?
Uganda...
- Uganda... - He doesn't know.
Uganda.
- You should know the answer. - Uganda's capital.
I think no one would beat me when it comes to making funny sounds with my mouth.
When I was little, I used to herd sheep in the countryside.
- I made various sounds with my mouth to herd them. - What sounds?
- I'm sure that you can't imitate it. - Show us.
- Show us. - Okay. I'll try one. Can you imitate this?
Oh my.
- What was that? - Wow.
- What's it? - Can you do it one more time?
It's amazing.
What the sheep would do to hear the sound?
- This is... - Hey, he can do it too.
It seems everyone can do it.
- He can do it. - No, it's not the same.
- That's not what I did. - I think he's good, too.
(Not a big difference between them)
Then show us something different.
- Any Italian can do it. - Italians can do it.
Everyone except me can do it.
That sound I made earlier is...
to call the pigeons.
This one was for chickens.
Listen. This is to call sheep.
- Wow. - Interesting.
Make this sound if they are too far.
- He's so good at it. - Awesome.
Try it.
- I think I'm the best investor here. - Investment?
- About investment... - But it's your job.
That's not fair. You can't bring up investment right now.
Then I'm an expert in sesame.
We're talking about what you're good at, and you're talking about your job.
Is there anyone who's good at Go?
- Go? - Do you play Go?
- Who can do it? - Me.
I played it when I was young.
- What level you are? - I was about Grade 7.
Okay.
(He's defeated as soon as he knew what level Si-kyung was.)
- All right. - Sometimes actors and actresses...
- measure each other, don't they? - Yes they do.
When I was filming the drama "The Slave Hunters",
- most of people was male. - They didn't wear a lot of clothes.
At that time, we were busy bragging our muscles.
When one actor goes out for shooting,
- the rest of actors gathered somewhere to work out. - To work out?
They brought gym equipment from their cars.
Then the place became a gym.
I brought 10 and 12kg weights.
- One day, Han Jung-soo brought a 15kg-weight. - Han Jung-soo.
Did he exercise with the 15kg-weight?
Jang Hyuk brought various weights, and they weighed about 60kg in total.
- Oh, my. - He carried them from his car.
But isn't it cool to work out with lighter ones?
- The difference in weight was to see who was better. - Yes, you're right.
So in reality,
- do you think you can beat Jang Hyuk? - Sure I can.
But I saw a video clip where he does boxing.
- He looked amazing. It's Jeet Kune Do. - One blow is enough.
I see. Do you mean this?
Also he has a smaller build.
Among celebrities and politicians of your country,
are they anyone who caused a scene by fighting with other people?
Trump suddenly comes across to my mind.
Yes, it's common that presidential candidates argue against each other.
But this year, it's particularly childish.
- Right. - Because Hilary and Trump...
both make fun of each other.
Trump always says "Crooked Hilary".
He makes ridiculous criticisms.
- What does he mean by "Crooked Hilary"? - It means...
- she's a liar. - She changes her opinions.
That's not new among politicians.
It's understandable that politicians have that kind of argument.
But this year, they both crossed the line.
They went too far.
But I think it's so funny.
- In Switzerland, - But I'm ashamed of it.
the government seems...
to be the least fun government in the world.
- Why? - Because in the government of Switzerland,
no politicians would fight.
They don't even argue much. So it's not interesting at all.
Recently, one politician was angry with...
another politician. So he said...
"What if I slap you?"
That was pretty big news.
- Did that joke make a headline? - Yes.
It doesn't look like a fight to me.
When I lived in the UK,
I saw news about politicians every day.
They argue with manners, like real gentlemen.
- They are very good at discussion. - That's the UK.
But the Swiss government is just so boring.
It's exactly the opposite in Mexico.
It's so fun to watch them in Mexico.
You can watch them having a physical fight on live television.
It's like watching a wrestling match.
When the former president of Mexico was delivering a speech,
leftist politicians insisted that they should boycott it.
So they turned their back to the president.
That was aired live on TV.
It was even more serious with the previous president.
They even said it'd be better if the president sends the speech script...
to them via email instead of delivering a speech.
It was really bad.
- Is it the same even now? - Sure it is.
In France, in 1967,
for the last time, a National Assembly Member...
had a duel with a sword.
- What? - Really?
- With a real sword? - Yes. But not until one of them dies.
But until the first blood.
- Until one bleeds. - Yes, I meant it.
But many journalists scoffed at their fight.
I found there was a very interesting fight in Japan.
In Japan, a businessman named Horie and...
the former Governor of Miyazaki Prefecture who used to be a comedian...
had a fight. It started from their Twitter posts.
Because they kept quarreling,
people wanted to end it.
So some suggested that they should appear in a TV show together.
They were on TV and reached an agreement on...
that they would compete in a triathlon race,
to decide who's the winner.
- That's funny. - Because both of them...
were famous for their sporting ability.
- They haven't competed yet, right? - Yes, because...
the signing-up process for the race is already over.
- The triathlon race. - So is it going to be next year?
Yes, they'll compete next year.
He's a very famous man. He used to a comedian.
- Do you know him? - Yes.
- How do you know him? - I saw him on TV.
I heard he's very good.
When I see news in Japan, sometimes...
I feel that their gestures of apology are a little excessive.
We have five gestures in Japan.
- They have different meanings according to their angles. - There are five?
We have 15, 30, 45, and 90 degree-angle gestures as well as dogeja.
The 15 degree-angle one is...
- for greeting. It's for saying hello. - Hello.
The 30-degree one is...
- It's politer. - Yes. Like this.
Thank you.
When it's 45 degrees, it means...
you appreciate something so much.
But if you do something very wrong,
the 90-degree gesture or dogeja is used.
- What is "dogeja"? - It is...
- It's kneeling directly on the ground to apologize. - It's bowing.
When a company does something very wrong,
the head of the company often does this at a press conference.
A Japanese automaker recently had a fuel efficiency scandal.
- It's a Japanese company. Mitsubishi. - You're right.
Did he make a 90 degree-angle gesture?
- Yes he did. - I see, 90 degrees.
(Press conference after the fuel economy scandal)
(Let me apologize.)
(They give a 90 degree bow.)
As apology is kind of our habit,
even when we're talking over the phone,
I know what it is.
we bow like this saying "I'm sorry".
- It's not even a video call. - True.
My grandfather said Japanese people...
"Japanese people would have problems with their backs."
Problems with the back?
- He saw them bowing so much. - No, it's...
You know, the neck is a vulnerable part.
By showing your neck to the other person,
you are showing that you are not the enemy.
In Italy, when Berlusconi was the prime minister,
the vice chairman of the senate was a very funny person.
He was voted as the person who is worst at using social media.
He did everything a politician of high-standing...
shouldn't do.
First of all, while watching soccer,
let's say the director made a mistake.
He would swear at the director on social media.
- What is that? - And also...
He was swearing at another soccer director...
and someone posted a message.
"You must be bad at soccer, too."
The politician replied, "You only have 48 followers. Be ashamed of yourself".
(How can a senator say that?)
- What kind of senator is that? - That's horrible.
He must have a lot of spare time.
- People shouldn't do that. - People often fight...
on social media these days. Do you know the term "Hyunpi"?
- "Hyunpi." - What is that?
"Hyunpi" is reality...
and "Player killing" combined.
- You know many recent terms. - Reality and...
The recent movie I filmed is about "Hyunpi".
It's about "Hyunpi".
- Reality and player... - Are you here to promote the movie?
- Of course, it's obvious. - I thought he just came to visit.
- I thought... - People don't come here without a reason.
I thought he came to talk about fighting.
- No, it's a movie. - I thought he was just passing by.
(Even the chairmen didn't know about the reason.)
I star as a psychopathic CEO...
who often does "Hyunpi".
I heard there are many serious cases.
It became serious issue in the US, too.
It used to be,
when people play games, I'm sure Guillaume knows this,
but when we microphones and make fun of each other is part of the culture.
But now it's gone over the edge.
The challenger would call the police,
tell the other person's address,
and say that there is a bomb or a terrorist there.
So, now there is this term called "SWATting".
"SWATting" is...
While a person is streaming a video game play live,
the person calls the police to the challenger's address.
So, the footage of the police SWAT team going into the house...
- comes out live. - That's scary.
You'd be enjoying the game, and suddenly, "Get on the ground!"
Some 20 police officers would come into the house.
- This... - What happens when you make a false report like that?
- That's a false report. - A false report.
In the end, it's a crime.
The person gets punished.
The person who called is a criminal.
- He or she has to pay fine and go to jail. - Do they go to jail?
Japanese people are known for not fighting often.
- But on the internet, people tend to fight. - They use harsh expressions.
Oogi, have you cursed at someone on the internet?
Swearing... When I was a freshman in college...
That's when I just started using social media.
There was this really noisy kid in class.
But, you know, it's hard to say it in person.
- So, on social media... - You didn't tell the guy that's right behind you?
- You posted it on social media? - Yes. "I'm in a class now,"
"but the guy behind me is so noisy."
But the good system of the class...
was that people could see...
the comments on social media on the screen.
It was to show the feedback on the class to the students.
So, I posted it hoping that the guy would see it.
Why didn't you just go and talk to him?
I didn't have the courage.
If it was Ji-ho, he would've picked the guy up like this.
- "Be quiet." - I would've said it right away.
I was hoping for someone like you.
- You hoped a person like him would act after reading that. - Yes.
- You hoped for someone like Ji-ho. - Yes.
Coca-Cola and Pepsi are well-known rivals.
They're famous for making fun of each other.
Yes, rival companies like that...
use advertisements.
- It's also the same for Apple and Microsoft. - Samsung?
This advertisement was very famous.
The two companies came out as people. They introduced themselves.
(The advertisement portrayed two companies as people.)
(Microsoft and Apple)
"I'm a Mac." That person looked very carefree.
He was like Zahid.
He was like a hipster.
But there was a person called "PC". "I'm a PC."
He looked like Guillaume.
He is making fun of Guillaume.
No, he just looked a bit conservative.
- Wearing a white shirt. - A middle-aged man.
- A middle-aged man? - And?
They make fun of each other.
The Mac person is very stylish...
and Microsoft person is very old-fashioned.
- I see. - Okay.
In Germany, BMW and Mercedes-Benz...
are major rival companies.
On BMW's 100th anniversary,
Mercedes-Benz made a special advertisement for it.
"Thank you for competing with us for 100 years."
And in addition to that, they put in a little joke, too.
"BMW employees can visit..."
"Mercedes-Benz museum for free."
"Learn about the history of cars."
- "Come and watch?" - BMW responded to that.
They made an advertisement called "The Next 100 Years".
"Since we can watch..."
"the history of cars for free,"
"you can come to our future car exhibitions for free."
"We are improving further."
In India, Daewoo something established business earlier than Hyundai.
What is the Daewoo something company?
"Daewoo something."
Yes, it went to India before Hyundai something.
I tried to censor it, but it didn't work.
In 2001, Daewoo went bankrupt.
At that time, Hyundai put out an advertisement...
saying, "Can you trust the car of a bankrupt company?"
It became controversial,
so they tried to remove the add quickly after. It still was controversial.
There are many cell phone companies in China.
The famous ones are Xiaomi...
and Meizu.
The CEOs of the two companies used to be friends,
but now that Xiaomi is being successful,
The CEO of Meizu said,
"The CEO of Xiaomi is running Xiaomi with what he learned from me."
"He plagiarized from me." That saying became controversial.
How do you feel about that? Do you laugh at it? Or do you think it's plausible?
Actually, neither company's products are very good.
(Their products are both not good.)
- They're both bad? - They're both not good.
- Okay. - Well, you can get into fights even if you don't want to.
Do you have your own skills for winning fights?
Well, you can get into fights even if you don't want to.
Do you have your own skills for winning fights?
I am usually a nice person...
and don't fight.
- But I have to fight when I play soccer. - You change, right?
Yes, I completely change.
My winning method is to make fun of the opponent.
That's very bad.
I played defense, so the opponent team's strikers would be around me.
As soon as the game starts, I'd pretend to be talking to my teammates...
and say, "He's bad, so today's match will be easy".
- Like that? - Yes, like that.
"He's bad, so today's match will be easy. Let's just go easy."
- I keep making fun of them. - In fact, in professional leagues,
they actually do that a lot. I heard it's hard to overcome that.
- Of course. - In basketball, too.
- It's severe in baseball too. - Baseball too?
- How in baseball? - Does the catcher say something?
When I stand in the batter's box, the catcher says,
"Hey, I don't think he can hit this one."
Gosh, that... I keep hearing that.
- Who was the catcher. - He keeps distracting me.
I see, so he speaks as if he's talking to the pitcher.
That's right. He's talking to the pitcher, but he's actually talking to me.
- Don't you glare at him? - I do.
Of course I do.
But he's wearing the mask, so he just...
You can't even look into his eyes.
Ji-ho should know this, too.
You should straighten your shoulders and look tough.
- You should bluff it a bit. - He's right.
- Bluffing is important. - I never fought in school.
You know, even if you are born in the country of Gandhi's peace,
students still fight.
I do 100 push-ups. You know what's going to happen if you fight me?
I'm going to punch your teeth out. These things...
"I'm going to punch your teeth out?"
I don't know what I would've done if the guy really decided to fight me,
but the bluff worked that day.
If you look straight into the opponent's eyes...
and keep repeating,
"I can win" 20 times inside your mind, you can win.
That was the worst story so far.
Really?
I think 20... No, you'd get punched by the time you think that for the 5th time.
- Mark... - What do you do Mark?
I really don't get angry.
In English, "Swallow one's pride".
I lower my pride first.
I tend to apologize first.
So, even if I think I'm right and the other person is wrong,
I think of the relationship as being more important.
So, I apologize first to maintain the relationship.
What does that make of the others?
He's like me. I never fought in my life.
- Really? - I never hit someone.
- Me too. - I never got hit.
I can tell why Se-yoon never got into a fight.
- Why? - When there is a problem,
- you solve it through humor. It might be true! - No way.
I almost got beaten once because of humor.
- If you do it wrong... - It can make people angrier.
I always apologize.
I think quietly and always realized that it's my fault.
That's why I never fought.
I really...
After I became a celebrity, I realized I shouldn't fight.
So, it's about holding it in.
I told my friends.
If somebody starts a fight, I'm going to go home.
If a fight breaks out, I'm just going to go home.
Since then, I never got in a fight.
- I can't help it. I have to work. - That's quite a determination.
That's when I made a serious resolution.
- That was very wise of you. - Yes, to be honest...
- It's not Ji-ho's style. - They would have been shocked, though.
They are trying to start a fight.
(Starting a fight with Ji-ho)
What?
(Standing up)
- Taxi. - Taxi.
- From that person's perspective... - It was the right decision.
he would have thought, "We're about to start a fight."
My anger...
was up to here. I really couldn't accept it.
When that happens, I'm really envious of...
our country's National Assembly Members.
They're exempted from any liability.
- They can start a fight. - Are you envious because they can start a fight?
If I join in,
I have a solution to help Oh Ji-ho...
handle his stress.
Go outside and look at the stars.
What? Look at the stars?
- Look at the stars. - What do you do after that?
- When you look up and see the stars, - Aren't they impossible to see in Seoul?
- all your angry emotions will disappear. - Will they?
In our country, they say if you drink water your anger will subside.
- What do you drink? - Water.
- Water. - That's something we say a lot.
- The water will calm you down. - There's a lot of good solutions coming up today.
- Let's try it. - Drink some water when you get angry.
- Se-yoon, - Yes?
get angry at me, then drink some water.
What have you ever done for me on a broadcast program?
- How do you feel? - A person shouldn't...
behave in that manner.
- Maybe he needs more. - He probably needs to go to the bathroom.
The water tastes horrible.
(The water tastes horrible.)
When you're feeling like that, you need to look at the stars.
I'm good at baking cookies.
- Cookies? - Yes, so last time,
- This one is even worse. - No, it's wise when you eat sweet things,
- you feel better. - Yes.
I made cookies last time...
and I gave it to my friend. He liked it very much.
I apologized to him with the cookies instead of my words.
How long does it take to make a cookie?
It depends on the cookie...
- I have to wait, right? - Yes.
- It takes about three hours. - They have to wait for the cookies.
Do you make a variety of different cookies?
- Yes. - Is it Chinese or European-style cookies?
It's European-style and I also draw faces on them.
- You draw faces? - Yes.
- After you made the cookies, - Yes?
- did it help to solve the problem? - We weren't close...
but I gave one each and became close with some of the people.
Is there a difference with the cookies you give to your friends,
and the ones you give to your wife?
I'm not married yet, so I haven't been able to give one to my wife.
There's a recipe for that one as well.
There are times when a fight or a dispute breaks out, right?
I think how you resolve a fight...
would be different in each country, right?
Mark, you would sue the person, right?
Yes, I would sue the person but...
this has become a problem the US.
People have been suing too much...
so companies try to avoid this as much as possible.
When an employee comes in to sign a contract,
there are conditions that are stipulated in the contract.
Such as, "We won't go to court."
"If we have a problem, we'll go to a third party organization instead of a court."
- This is called arbitration. - You have to go to arbitration, instead.
We'll have an arbitration and solve it there.
The problem is that a lot of the third party organizations...
are lawyers that are working for the company.
Goodness me.
- Most of the time... - It's advantageous.
they take the company's side.
- They are a financier. - Yes.
It has become very unfair to the employees.
It's advantageous to the rich.
In the northern villages in Pakistan,
the elders of the village are like the judges.
We have a system to deal with problems like this.
Do all the villagers agree with the decisions made by the judges?
- Even if it's unfair? - Yes, they accept it.
It feels like something from the past.
It does, right?
No, he's right.
They still have that system today.
In our country, I feel like...
the police arrive after the fight is over.
Yes, that's why if there is a big fight in China,
almost half the people would be dead before the police arrives.
Also, Chinese people don't like things that are complex.
That's why we don't like to make problems bigger.
- If we can resolve this with money, - Let's come to an agreement.
let's do it.
(In China, they try to resolve the problems with money.)
The 116th Non Summit Meetings item brought to us by Oh Ji-ho was...
I'm so competitive that I feel like I have to win every competition. Am I abnormal?
It is a little abnormal.
- You've realized that. - Yes.
Because he is such a competitive person,
we'll use a future film he will be in to make the wager.
"If this movie has over a certain number of viewers, I'll do this."
"I will wager my competitive spirit on this."
If I'm really furious...
and that anger is too much, I might cause an incident.
What will you promise to do?
- If the movie has over 5 million viewers, - 5 million is a good number.
(Expectant)
I will give out free hugs at COEX Mall.
You have to do it while wearing the costume from "The Slave Hunters".
The costume from "The Slave Hunters"? That's hard to get.
You just need to take your clothes off.
Could you say a few words about being on our show?
It was a lot of fun and everyone here is really good at talking.
They were so good, I didn't have the chance to butt in.
Next time when we meet privately,
I'd like to talk to you while having soju.
That sounds good.
I would now like to adjourn our Non Summit Meeting.
Until the day we all become normal.
Just to let you know not to challenge you intensely,
I have prepared a warning song.
(Laughing)
(I'm growling, growling, growling)
- Sing with me. - Growling
(How long...)
- We'll close the session. - What was that?
There were more lines.
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